{"id":73,"date":"2010-09-27T19:35:00","date_gmt":"2010-09-27T19:35:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.extraenvironmentalist.com\/?p=73"},"modified":"2017-05-11T09:10:46","modified_gmt":"2017-05-11T13:10:46","slug":"episode-3-ideological-energy","status":"publish","type":"xen_episodes","link":"https:\/\/xenetwork.org\/xe\/episodes\/episode-3-ideological-energy\/","title":{"rendered":"[ Episode #3 \/\/ Ideological Energy ]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A truly well-informed person will undoubtedly discover the rapid rate at which belief in business as usual is collapsing. This collapse extends to include our ecosystems, our human systems and our thought systems. Is deflating societal complexity fueled by cheap energy causing this collapse? Would such a collapse inherently allow for a positive social transformation? Do the organizing principles in society disappear when the energy supporting them transforms to naught but entropy?<\/p>\n<p>In The Extraenvironmentalist #3 we expand on these questions through a debate between KMO of the <a href=\"http:\/\/c-realmpodcast.podomatic.com\/\">C-Realm Podcast<\/a> and Doug Lain of the <a href=\"http:\/\/dietsoap.podomatic.com\/\">Diet Soap Podcast<\/a>. We use <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CBgQFjAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fcluborlov.blogspot.com%2F2008%2F02%2Ffive-stages-of-collapse.html&amp;ei=K-mgTNnFJozGsAPYzfDVAQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNGC87-pzGBKfVTxLkepBOpMVVfVSw&amp;sig2=qtBOU5KbaPeQFal2E0Wenw\">Dmitry Orlov's 5 Stages of Collapse<\/a> as a base for the discussion.<\/p>\n<p>Doug challenged KMO on Facebook by stating that he heard KMO saying he was looking forward to collapse. In the ensuing exchange, well outside the capacity of the Facebook medium, it was decided that Doug was unclear on KMO's views which he intended to critique. We've structured this episode to narrow down the discussion and in doing so expose some interesting connections between collapse, complexity, ideology and energy.<\/p>\n<p>Additionally, Seth talks about Elk and we unveil our new voicemail inbox which could possibly summon extradimensional mind-structures if you're not careful with it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_4568\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-73-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/003-ideological-energy.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/003-ideological-energy.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/003-ideological-energy.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Media Links<\/strong><br \/>\nYoutube | <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Wz3YNMPMNzU\">Cultural Theory: Althusser's Concept of Ideology <\/a><br \/>\nPodcast | <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pantedmonkey.org\/\">What Now with Ken Rose<\/a> Broadcast on 6.28.2010 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pantedmonkey.org\/podcastgen\/download.php?filename=2010-07-01_what_now_podcast_0628101110_joseph_tainter.mp3\">ft. Joseph Tainter<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Music (in order of appearance)<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/one-track-mind.com\/the-mynabirds-numbers-dont-lie\/\">The Mynabirds - Numbers Don't Lie<\/a> via <a href=\"http:\/\/one-track-mind.com\/\">OneTrackMind<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4LOFDJaqX-s\">Chicago Bulls Intro Song <\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/pitchfork.com\/news\/39950-new-gold-panda-same-dream-china\/\">Gold Panda - Same Dream China <\/a>via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pitchfork.com\">Pitchfork<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/audioporncentral.com\/2009\/09\/miike-snow-\u2013-animal-mark-ronson-remix.html\">Miike Snow - Animal (Mark Ronson remix)<\/a> via <a href=\"http:\/\/audioporncentral.com\/\">AudioPorn Central<br \/>\n<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/stereogum.com\/477201\/glasser-home\/mp3s\/\">Glasser - Home<\/a> via <a href=\"http:\/\/stereogum.com\/\">Stereogum<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/themusicslut.com\/2010\/08\/tms-debut-arcade-fire-the-suburbs-christian-tv-mix\/\">Arcade Fire - The Suburbs (Christian TV Mix)<\/a> via <a href=\"http:\/\/themusicslut.com\/\">The Music Slut<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/pitchfork.com\/reviews\/tracks\/11415-quitters-raga\/\">Gold Panda - Quitters Raga <\/a> via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pitchfork.com\">Pitchfork<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\/\/ Corrections and Blunders (Please do correct us if you find something we've said to be factually inaccurate)<\/p>\n<p>Justin left his skype sounds on during the interview and they are distracting<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A truly well-informed person will undoubtedly discover the rapid rate at which belief in business as usual is collapsing. 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