[{"id":1620,"date":"2012-08-09T19:50:28","date_gmt":"2012-08-10T02:50:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.extraenvironmentalist.com\/?p=1263"},"modified":"2018-03-03T19:33:44","modified_gmt":"2018-03-04T00:33:44","slug":"episode-47-power-transition","status":"publish","type":"xen_episodes","link":"https:\/\/xenetwork.org\/xe\/episodes\/episode-47-power-transition\/","title":{"rendered":"[ Episode #47 \/\/ Power Transition ]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>After years of stagnant growth in conventional oil extraction rates, ignorance of Hubbert's Curve has peaked. Now that the mainstream can't dismiss the issue, public conversations proclaim an exuberant belief in marginal reserves as our savior. Claims of American energy independence have fueled a dialogue that threatens to drive the US economy towards a fiscal and energy cliff. Can we look toward renewables to meet our energy needs for the future? Is it possible to start telling a new story about our energy future?<\/p>\n<p>In <strong>Extraenvironmentalist #47<\/strong> we discuss the global energy picture with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.getreallist.com\/\">Chris Nelder<\/a>\u00a0as he describes the energy stories we tell ourselves and explains exactly how many natural gas wells it will take for the United States to gain energy independence. We ask Chris about the complexity of our international energy markets and why we shouldn't give up on renewable energy even if it doesn't fit the power grid of today. Then, we speak with <a href=\"http:\/\/gregor.us\/\">Gregor MacDonald<\/a> about the recent blackout in India that cut electricity to 10% of Earth's population. Gregor tells us about the process of normal accidents and why the risk we've offloaded might be trickling back into our energy infrastructure. Last of all, <a href=\"http:\/\/truth-out.org\/news\/item\/10572-meet-catabolic-capitalism-globalizations-evil-twin\">we speculate about the future of capitalism as growth ends<\/a>. Will we look back on these years of corporate rule as the golden age before serfdom?<\/p>\n<p><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1743\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1620-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/047-power-transition.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/047-power-transition.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/047-power-transition.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><br \/>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1744\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1620-2\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/extraenvironmentalist.com\/audio\/low\/Ep47_final_lowbitrate.mp3?_=2\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/extraenvironmentalist.com\/audio\/low\/Ep47_final_lowbitrate.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/extraenvironmentalist.com\/audio\/low\/Ep47_final_lowbitrate.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Music (in order of appearance)<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.tinymixtapes.com\/chocolate-grinder\/listen-deerhoof-the-trouble-with-candyhands\">Deerhoof - The Trouble With Candyhands<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tinymixtapes.com\/\">Tiny Mixtapes<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/soundcloud.com\/c2cdjs\/mack-the-knife-tribute-to-1\"><br \/>\n<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/stereogum.com\/1097052\/tame-impala-thats-all-for-everyone-fleetwood-mac-cover\/mp3s\/\">Fleetwood Mac - That's All For Everyone (Tame Impala Cover)<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/stereogum.com\/\">Stereogum<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/stereogum.com\/\"><br \/>\n<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0Dp3vYnoe4g\">F*ck you Pepco<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0Dp3vYnoe4g\">Youtube<br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/soundcloud.com\/faded-music\/marlena-shaw-california-soul\">Marlena Shaw - California Soul (Diplo Remix)<\/a><em> via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/soundcloud.com\/faded-music\/marlena-shaw-california-soul\">Soundcloud<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/dailybeatz.com\/2010\/08\/21\/nico-these-days-shinichi-osawa-edit\/\">Nico - These Days (Shinichi Osawa Edit)<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/dailybeatz.com\/\">Daily Beatz<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.tracasseur.com\/2012\/06\/elton-john-vs-pnau.html\">Elton John - Good Morning to the Night (PNAU Remix)<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tracasseur.com\/\">Tracasseur<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Extended Clips (in order of appearance)<\/strong><br \/>\n[1st Break] - 36m<br \/>\nAmerica's Infrastructure is Failing<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=AwP3HfLmVuQ\">Heat Adds Misery to Atlantic Power Outage <\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=IzLz6pxdeeQ\">Congress Ignores Nations Infrastructure<\/a><\/p>\n<p>[End]<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/42720491\">Gail Tverberg on Peak Oil<\/a> at the Montreal Degrowth Conference<\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Production Credits<\/strong><br \/>\nJosh B.<br \/>\nKevin M. <em><\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/xe-network.pricelessmiscellaneous.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2012\/08\/episode47art.jpg\"><em>via<\/em> <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/SustainableGuidance?feature=watch\">Sustainable Guidance Youtube Channel <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After years of stagnant growth in conventional oil extraction rates, ignorance of Hubbert&#8217;s Curve has peaked. Now that the mainstream can&#8217;t dismiss the issue, public conversations proclaim an exuberant belief in marginal reserves as our savior. Claims of American energy independence have fueled a dialogue that threatens to drive the US economy towards a fiscal [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":324,"featured_media":1623,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[276,22,32,54,59,73,277,99,257,278,121,127,136,157,160],"class_list":["post-1620","xen_episodes","type-xen_episodes","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcast","tag-blackout","tag-capitalism","tag-complexity","tag-economy","tag-electricity","tag-finance","tag-india","tag-localization","tag-narrative","tag-natural-gas","tag-peak-oil","tag-power","tag-renewables","tag-technology","tag-transition"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>[ Episode #47 \/\/ Power Transition ] - Extraenvironmentalist<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/xenetwork.org\/xe\/episodes\/episode-47-power-transition\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"[ Episode #47 \/\/ Power Transition ] - Extraenvironmentalist\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"After years of stagnant growth in conventional oil extraction rates, ignorance of Hubbert&#039;s Curve has peaked. 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Is sustainability a farce when associated with a way of life that is out of touch with reality? Global droughts, weather catastrophes and heatwaves are demonstrating the rapidly increasing impact of atmospheric greenhouse gases. With decades of inaction on climate change, are we all climate denialists? Could there be an environmental movement that works to exit the collapsing global system?<\/p>\n<p>In <strong>Extraenvironmentalist #46<\/strong> we speak first with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paulkingsnorth.net\/\">Paul Kingsnorth<\/a> on why he's <a href=\"http:\/\/www.orionmagazine.org\/index.php\/articles\/article\/6599\/\">withdrawn from the mainstream environmental movement<\/a> and its discussions of sustainability. Paul tells us about developing the <a href=\"http:\/\/dark-mountain.net\/\">Dark Mountain Project<\/a> to help us tell creative stories that embody the new narrative evolving from the end of industrial society. Then, <a href=\"http:\/\/web.uvic.ca\/enweb\/people\/faculty\/mgonigle.php\">Michael M'Gonigle<\/a> [55m] joins us to talk about the importance of creating <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ecoshock.info\/2012\/05\/is-it-too-late-for-environmentalism.html\">an exit-environmentalism<\/a> that allows us to leave a global system which is falling apart. Michael describes why liberal environmentalism is no longer useful in creating laws to protect our environment in the extended version of an interview <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ecoshock.info\/2012\/05\/is-it-too-late-for-environmentalism.html\">that originally aired on Radio Ecoshock.<\/a> Finally, <a href=\"http:\/\/thearchdruidreport.blogspot.ca\/\">John Michael Greer<\/a> [1h 56m] takes root in a new recurring and irregular segment to talk about denial and his take on the environmental movement. All that and more as our latest episode proves there aren't limits to growth for XE podcast episode runtimes.<\/p>\n<p><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1745\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1618-3\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/046-recovering-environmentalists.mp3?_=3\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/046-recovering-environmentalists.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/046-recovering-environmentalists.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><br \/>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1746\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1618-4\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/extraenvironmentalist.com\/audio\/low\/Ep46_final_lowbitrate.mp3?_=4\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/extraenvironmentalist.com\/audio\/low\/Ep46_final_lowbitrate.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/extraenvironmentalist.com\/audio\/low\/Ep46_final_lowbitrate.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Music (in order of appearance)<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/fistintheair.com\/2012\/07\/19\/griz-the-future-is-now\/fistintheair-com-2\/\">GRiZ - The Future is Now<\/a><em> via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/fistintheair.com\/\">Fist in the Air<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/soundcloud.com\/c2cdjs\/mack-the-knife-tribute-to-1\"><br \/>\n<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/soundisstyle.com\/2012\/07\/adele-rolling-in-the-deep-blackbird-blackbird-rework.html\">Adele - Rolling in the Deep (Blackbird Blackbird Rework)<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/soundisstyle.com\/\">Sound Is Style<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/stereogum.com\/\"><br \/>\n<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/ridethetempo.com\/2012\/07\/09\/listendownload-jeremy-fisher-built\/\">Jeremy Fisher - Built to Last<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/ridethetempo.com\/\">Ride the Tempo<br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.earmilk.com\/2012\/07\/17\/ellie-goulding-hanging-on-svyable-prfftt-bootleg\/\">Elle Goulding - Hanging On (Syvable &amp; PRFFTT Bootleg)<\/a><em> via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.earmilk.com\/\">Earmilk<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ecosalon.com\/daily-track-the-real-thing-pillowtalk-remix-marvin-gaye\/\">Marvin Gaye - Real Thing (Pillow Talk Rework)<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/ecosalon.com\/\">Ecosalon<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.themusicninja.com\/downright-funky-stevie-wonder-superstition-monolith-remix\/\">Stevie Wonder - Superstition (Monolith Remix)<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.themusicninja.com\/\">The Music Ninja<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Extended Clips (in order of appearance)<\/strong><br \/>\n[1st Break] - 28'27\"<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9fkU38YVDZY\">Shaking Spain - Expect Violence<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LWIhFlKmIrc\">Marc Faber - Markets to Crash in 12 Months<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=fDmufZHzzBA\">Euro-Doomsday Scenario<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/id\/48193471\/How_Close_Are_We_to_New_Great_Depression\">How close are we to a new great depression<\/a><\/p>\n<p>[2nd Break] - 83'27\"<br \/>\nRecord Drought Has Cascading Consequences<br \/>\nHeat Wave<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=zrZDxXqWSQw\">Americans Scramble to Safety<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2012\/07\/08\/george-will-heat-wave-summer-climate-change-global-warming_n_1657504.html\">George Will: \"It's Just Summer, Get Over It\"<\/a><\/p>\n<p>[End]<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=7G-WH-My640\">Alan Watts - Man in Nature<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Production Credits<\/strong><br \/>\nProduction Assistance by Kevin <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/SustainableGuidance?feature=watch\">Sustainable Guidance Youtube Channel <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Success for the environmental movement has meant many of its members adopted mainstream values in attempts to sustain the unsustainable. Is sustainability a farce when associated with a way of life that is out of touch with reality? Global droughts, weather catastrophes and heatwaves are demonstrating the rapidly increasing impact of atmospheric greenhouse gases. With [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":324,"featured_media":1627,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[6,9,22,30,51,52,54,274,275,81,257,107,117,155,166,172],"class_list":["post-1618","xen_episodes","type-xen_episodes","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcast","tag-activism","tag-alternative-lifestyle","tag-capitalism","tag-collapse","tag-druidry","tag-ecology","tag-economy","tag-environmentalism","tag-environmentalist","tag-growth","tag-narrative","tag-nature","tag-organizations","tag-sustainability","tag-values","tag-worldview"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>[ Episode #46 \/\/ Recovering Environmentalists ] - Extraenvironmentalist<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/xenetwork.org\/xe\/episodes\/episode-46-recovering-environmentalists\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"[ Episode #46 \/\/ Recovering Environmentalists ] - Extraenvironmentalist\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Success for the environmental movement has meant many of its members adopted mainstream values in attempts to sustain the unsustainable. 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This globalized currency system draws money out of localities and into the hands of corrupt financial institutions. Can we start recapturing these flows of money to build resilient communities? If the Federal Reserve can print money, why can't we?<\/p>\n<p>In <strong>Extraenvironmentalist #45<\/strong> we speak to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.communityway.ca\/\">Michael Linton<\/a>, developer of LETS and the Community Way currency system about how to open up our money to emphasize positive aspects of human nature . Michael describes how local currencies can help to overcome the feeling of scarcity imposed by a centralized national currency. We ask Michael if our federal dollars should be replaced or if we should be looking to compliment them through local money. Then, we speak with <a href=\"http:\/\/seedstock.ca\/\">Jordan Bober<\/a> who is<a href=\"http:\/\/thetyee.ca\/News\/2012\/07\/06\/Seedstock\/\"> launching the Seedstock<\/a> in Vancouver, BC based on Michael's Community Way model.<\/p>\n<p><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1747\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1614-5\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/045-opening-money.mp3?_=5\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/045-opening-money.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/045-opening-money.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><br \/>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1748\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-1614-6\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/extraenvironmentalist.com\/audio\/low\/Ep45_final_lowbitrate.mp3?_=6\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/extraenvironmentalist.com\/audio\/low\/Ep45_final_lowbitrate.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/extraenvironmentalist.com\/audio\/low\/Ep45_final_lowbitrate.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Music (in order of appearance)<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=imkdY7BG8EQ\">Chick Bullock - Are You Making Any Money?\u00a0<\/a><em> via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=imkdY7BG8EQ\">Youtube<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/soundcloud.com\/c2cdjs\/mack-the-knife-tribute-to-1\"><br \/>\n<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/stereogum.com\/1039622\/the-mynabirds-body-of-work\/mp3s\/\">Gold Diggers of 1933 - We're in the Money<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=UJOjTNuuEVw\">Youtube<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/stereogum.com\/\"><br \/>\n<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/consequenceofsound.net\/2012\/06\/new-music-matt-and-kim-lets-go\/\">Matt and Kim - Let's Go<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/consequenceofsound.net\/\">Consequence of Sound<br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.themusicninja.com\/seriously-funky-the-beatles-x-carlos-santana-x-griz-x-gramatik-dont-let-me-change-ego-mashup\/\">The Beatles x Carlos Santana x Griz x Gramatik \u2013 Don\u2019t Let Me Change (Ego Mashup)<\/a><em> via<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/theeargazm.com\"> The Music Ninja<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Extended Clips (in order of appearance)<\/strong><br \/>\n[Break]<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=F1aY8csDDcc\">FT - Libor scandal rocks banking<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=7PbpC0FqS7s\">Max Keiser - How Tom Cruise Stole Libor<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=JZQqrxHGcoQ\">Michael Hudson - Summit MMT in Italy<\/a><\/p>\n<p>[End]<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=JZQqrxHGcoQ\">Michael Hudson - Summit MMT in Italy<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Production Credits<\/strong><br \/>\nProduction Assistance\u00a0 | Kevin at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/SustainableGuidance?feature=watch\">Sustainable Guidance Youtube Channel <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By failing to question our money system, we&#8217;ve accepted an understanding of finance and fiat that&#8217;s showing its flaws greater than ever. This globalized currency system draws money out of localities and into the hands of corrupt financial institutions. Can we start recapturing these flows of money to build resilient communities? 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Many of them are now striving for stability through policies of refinancing and quantitative easing. While this class of economic thinkers have driven the planet's policies for decades, their faulty logic is being exposed by structurally high unemployment and failing banks. Ben Bernanke and Mario Draghi are using central bank policies to prop up a system that's imploding due to heavy debt burdens by using national deficits for attempts to accelerate private debt accumulation once again. Could one of the few economists that predicted the current financial crash outline a path forward for educating the next round of economists while providing an alternative to austerity?<\/p>\n<p>In<strong> Extraenvironmentalist #39<\/strong> we speak with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.debtdeflation.com\/blogs\/\">Steve Keen<\/a> about how neoclassical economics controls the ways our governments think. Steve draws on themes from the second edition of his book that exposes neoclassical economics and its faulty logic, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1848139926\/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theextraenv-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1848139926\">Debunking Economics<\/a>. In the first half of the interview, we draw on a technical understanding of where neoclassical economics has gone wrong and where the economies of the Eurozone are headed through following the path of austerity. In the second half, we talk about modern debt jubilees and retooling economics education. After which,<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mercuryfilms.ca\/index.php?show=1\"> Jennifer Baichwal<\/a> joins us <em>at the 95' mark<\/em> to talk about her newest film, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nfb.ca\/film\/payback_trailer\/\">Payback<\/a>, based on Margaret Atwood's book about debt and debtor relationships. 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Technology is often viewed as a mythical force, seemingly bestowing its gifts on an often misguided species in a neutral manner; though what if the best technologies don't always win? Are all the energy solutions we're banking on to continue a capitalist consumer lifestyle just an innovation away from mass deployment? \u00a0Could social choices of technologies be far from rational? What if the most important electric loads were the ones invented by utility companies? Why does America consume so much energy and believe so heavily in the transcendent role of technology?<\/p>\n<p>In\u00a0<strong>Extraenvironmentalist #16 <\/strong>we speak with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/alexis-madrigal\/\">Alexis Madrigal<\/a> about his book,\u00a0<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Powering-Dream-History-Promise-Technology\/dp\/030681885X\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1307750236&amp;sr=8-1\">Powering the Dream: The History and Promise of Green Technology<\/a> <\/em>which discusses the precarious path our species has followed towards a more perfect power. Alexis is a senior editor at <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/\">The Atlantic<\/a><\/em> where he writes about technology and media while tweeting prolifically from <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/#!\/alexismadrigal\">@alexismadrigal<\/a>.\u00a0Alexis explains how many of the green technologies, now touted as shiny new innovations, have existed for the greater part of the last century and have been stifled through a combination of poor policies and irrational developments. We wonder about the role of innovation in the future, do we have all the technology we really need or are we on the verge of a renewable energy breakthrough that can revolutionize our world?<\/p>\n<p>At the end of this episode, Dennis McKenna joins us once again (at the 1h37m mark) for an apology to Matthew Watkins who was incorrectly lambasted in the previous episode for his critiques to the Timewave theory.<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1751\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-487-9\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/016-powering-the-dream.mp3?_=9\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/016-powering-the-dream.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/016-powering-the-dream.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Music (in order of appearance)<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ohhsofamous.com\/music\/metric-twilight-galaxy-gladkill-remix\/\">Metric - Twilight Galaxy (Gladkill Remix) <\/a><em>via <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/ohhsofamous.com\">Ohh So Famous<\/a><a title=\"Amazing coat by the way... \" href=\"http:\/\/www.iguessimfloating.net\/\"><br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.themusicninja.com\/electro-milagres-glowing-mouth\/\">Milagres - Glowing Mouth<\/a><em> via<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.themusicninja.com\/\">The Music Ninja<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dnnzC5squKA\">The Dictator's Speech with Inception's music by Hans Zimmer<\/a> <em>via <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dnnzC5squKA\">Youtube<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/earplugsnotincluded.com\/foster-the-people-houdini-validas-step-out-mix-mstr\/\"> Foster the People - Houdini (Valida's Step Out Mix)<\/a> <em>via <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/potholesinmyblog.com\/blue-sky-black-death-sleeping-children-are-still-flying\/\">Earplugs Not Included<br \/>\nBlue Sky Black Death - Sleeping Children Are Still Flying<\/a> <em>via<a href=\"http:\/\/potholesinmyblog.com\/\">Potholes In My Blog<\/a><\/em><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gorillavsbear.net\/2011\/04\/12\/mp3-purity-ring-lofticries\/\">Purity Ring - Lofticries<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gorillavsbear.net\">Gorilla vs. Bear<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Energy drives our civilization: onward towards the limits of human imagination, ever closer to the grave consequences of oil depletion. 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Two young men set out from Colorado to the rainforest of South America as they hunt down an elusive chemical with the potential to reveal new dimensions of human nature. During this quest, they find something much greater, as their encounter with an enigmatic other sets their lives on a path too wild to predict.<\/p>\n<p>In\u00a0<strong>Extraenvironmentalist #15 <\/strong>we speak with Dennis McKenna about his Kickstarter project, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/1862402066\/the-brotherhood-of-the-screaming-abyss\">Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss<\/a> <\/em>which, with your support, will become a book detailing his life with philosopher and visionary Terence McKenna. Dennis is co-author of <em>The Invisible Landscape <\/em>and a professor of ethnobotany at the University of Minnesota's Center for Spirituality &amp; Healing with an extensive career researching how plants and humans can create a productive partnership. We spoke with Dennis about the ways he and Terence would develop ideas, how Dennis made the trip to the Amazon with Terence, how events at La Chorrera changed him. Though we don't stop there, Dennis also shares with us many of his ideas on life, the universe and everything and weighs in on whether he coined the term <em>extraenvironmentalist<\/em> originally.<\/p>\n<p>Please support Dennis' <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/1862402066\/the-brotherhood-of-the-screaming-abyss\"><strong>Kickstarter project<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Note:<\/strong> This is Part I of II.<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1753\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-466-11\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/96kbps\/015-1-brotherhood-of-the-screaming-abyss-part-i-96kbps.mp3?_=11\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/96kbps\/015-1-brotherhood-of-the-screaming-abyss-part-i-96kbps.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/96kbps\/015-1-brotherhood-of-the-screaming-abyss-part-i-96kbps.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1754\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-466-12\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/015-1-brotherhood-of-the-screaming-abyss-part-i.mp3?_=12\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/015-1-brotherhood-of-the-screaming-abyss-part-i.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/015-1-brotherhood-of-the-screaming-abyss-part-i.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Music (in order of appearance)<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thebangpop.com\/2011\/04\/20\/cults-go-outside-2-bears-remix\/\">Cults - Go Outside (2 Bears Remix) <\/a><em>via <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.iguessimfloating.net\/2010\/10\/mp3-new-millionyoung-calrissian.html\">The Bang Pop<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.iguessimfloating.net\/2010\/10\/mp3-new-millionyoung-calrissian.html\">MillionYoung - Calrissian <\/a><em>via <\/em><a title=\"Amazing coat by the way... \" href=\"http:\/\/www.iguessimfloating.net\/\">I Guess I'm Floating<br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/vimeo.com\/14343874\">How to Be Alone<\/a><em> via <\/em><strong>Vimeo<\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dangerousminds.net\/comments\/dangerous_minds_radio_hour_episode_18\/\/%20title=\"><br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/soundcloud.com\/adventureclubdubstep\/we-dont-eat-adventure-club-remix\">James Vincent McMorrow - We Don't Eat (Adventure Club Dubstep Remix) <\/a><em>via<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/soundcloud.com\/adventureclubdubstep\/we-dont-eat-adventure-club-remix\"> SoundCloud<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/newmusicco.blogspot.com\/2011\/04\/doug-hoyer-oh-wind-will-blow-ft-jessica.html\">Doug Hoyer - Oh, The Wind Will Blow (ft. 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Is there a connection between the lifespan of a civilization and the rate at which its topsoil erodes? The agricultural practices of past societies can serve as a stern warning against highly erosive farming and point the way towards a revolution in the way we produce the sustenance needed for survival and prosperity. What does it mean that rapidly increasing food prices are causing riots around the world while a dump-truck load of soil enters the Mississippi Delta every second?<\/p>\n<p>In\u00a0<strong>Extraenvironmentalist #14<\/strong> we speak with <a href=\"http:\/\/earthweb.ess.washington.edu\/dwp\/people\/profile.php?name=montgomery--david\">Dave Montgomery<\/a>, author of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Dirt-Civilizations-David-R-Montgomery\/dp\/0520248708\">Dirt: The Erosion of Civilizations<\/a>. <\/em>In his book, Dr. Montgomery covers historical evidence from Rome, Greece, China and other societies to trace a link between population dynamics and erosion. Even though the land of North America has only experienced heavy agricultural erosion for a much shorter span, we've already mined the fertility of the U.S. Southeast to churn out tobacco, driving populations towards the Pacific in search of more productive land. We discuss some key historical examples and talk about how modern trends point to serious concerns for the present as soil productivity declines at a rapid rate. 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Did it give us access to new reaches of the day or has it disconnected us from nature? The development of inexpensive and accessible light has brought about social change with its many forms: from animal fat candles to whale blubber, oil to electrified carbon filaments. Each varying source brings with it not only light but the dark side of fuel consumption.<\/p>\n<p>In <strong>Extraenvironmentalist #10<\/strong> we speak with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.janebrox.com\/about.html\">Jane Brox<\/a>, author of many books including most recently <em>Brilliant: The Evolution of Artificial Light <\/em>which<em> <\/em>Time magazine rated as one of the best non-fiction books of last year, Seth and I concur. <em>Brilliant<\/em> speaks not only to the technology behind artificial light but also to the class structures which filtered the technology down to the masses along with the consequences and the advantages of having a more luminous world.<\/p>\n<p>Justin accidentally leaves his microphone on in the background so you get to hear an exclusive behind the scenes exploration into what exactly occurs as an interview takes place. Fortunately it is not too distracting as he behaved himself quite well and Seth did a great job dampening the impact. However the problem caused by the behavior of the mute button in Skype is solved and it won't happen again, we are only ten episodes in after all.<\/p>\n<p>Even though it has been a while since you've last seen The Extraenvironmentalist, in this episode we return to kick off a stellar year of examining humanity in 2011 with interviews and more. 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Globalization has provided tremendous financial benefits and convenience for specific groups but has degraded communities while spreading the emotional and spiritual depravity of materialism. By developing a local resilient economy can we counteract the shadow of globalization while addressing the predicaments of energy depletion, resource scarcity and desolate communities?<\/p>\n<p>In <strong>Extraenvironmentalist #9<\/strong> we speak with Helena Norberg-Hodge, director of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theeconomicsofhappiness.org\/\">The Economics of Happiness<\/a>, a documentary film about the worldwide movement for local economic development. Our discussion covers Helena's experiences in the Ladakh region of India which inspired her to recognize the problems with the standard model for economic development, inspiring her book and film <em>Ancient Futures: Learning from Ladakh<\/em>. 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