{"id":409,"date":"2011-03-13T23:43:15","date_gmt":"2011-03-13T23:43:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.extraenvironmentalist.com\/?p=409"},"modified":"2017-05-11T09:10:42","modified_gmt":"2017-05-11T13:10:42","slug":"episode-12-questioning-collapse","status":"publish","type":"xen_episodes","link":"https:\/\/xenetwork.org\/xe\/episodes\/episode-12-questioning-collapse\/","title":{"rendered":"[ Episode #12 \/\/ Questioning Collapse ]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As anthropologists, historians and popular writers fit the complex events of the past into stories that relay morals to the modern world, sometimes details can be overlooked to make a point.\u00a0Does a civilization collapse or does it merely transform? What role does human resilience play in the shifting structures of a society? Has a society failed if it still has millions of descendants and a rich cultural history?<\/p>\n<p>In\u00a0<strong>Extraenvironmentalist #12<\/strong> we speak with <a href=\"http:\/\/anthropology.unc.edu\/people\/faculty\/mcanany\">Patricia McAnany<\/a>, co-editor of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Questioning-Collapse-Resilience-Ecological-Vulnerability\/dp\/0521733669\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1297386560&amp;sr=8-1\">Questioning Collapse<\/a> <\/em>which addresses many oversights in the complex narratives conveniently distilled to form the pages of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Collapse-Societies-Choose-Succeed-Revised\/dp\/0143117009\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1300044950&amp;sr=1-1\">Jared Diamond's <\/a><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Collapse-Societies-Choose-Succeed-Revised\/dp\/0143117009\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1300044950&amp;sr=1-1\">Collapse<\/a>.<\/em> We discuss some of the issues with the often cited reasons for the collapse of Mayan civilization, including simplifications made in Diamond's writings. How can we identify and classify a civilizational collapse? While many historical examples of rapid societal change may appear to be a collapse, they might just represent a collection of people living in the aftermath of empire.<\/p>\n<p><strong>NOTE:<\/strong> All celebrity voices are purely very poor impersonations and are not\u00a0meant\u00a0to be real in any way, shape or form.<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1079\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-409-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/012-questioning-collapse.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/012-questioning-collapse.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/012-questioning-collapse.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Music (in order of appearance)<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.chrisbathgate.org\/index-salt-year.php\">Chris Bathgate - No Silver<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chrisbathgate.org\/index-salt-year.php\">Chris Bathgate's Website<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.etmusiquepourtous.com\/2011\/02\/24\/oh-land-wolf-i\/\">Oh Land - Wolf and I<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.etmusiquepourtous.com\/\">Et Musique Pour Tous<br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.french-express.com\/rufus-ride-the-universe\/\">R\u00dcF\u00dcS\u00a0- We Left<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.french-express.com\/rufus-ride-the-universe\/\">FRENCH EXPRESS<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.french-express.com\/\"><br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/klubbace.se\/2011\/02\/generationals-greenleaf\/\">Generationals - Greenleaf<\/a> <em>via <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/klubbace.se\/\">Klubb Ace<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As anthropologists, historians and popular writers fit the complex events of the past into stories that relay morals to the modern world, sometimes details can be overlooked to make a point.\u00a0Does a civilization collapse or does it merely transform? What role does human resilience play in the shifting structures of a society? Has a society [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13058,"featured_media":415,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[10,19,30,62,90,101,138,146],"class_list":["post-409","xen_episodes","type-xen_episodes","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcast","tag-anthropology","tag-books","tag-collapse","tag-empire","tag-indigenous","tag-mayans","tag-resilience","tag-society"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>[ Episode #12 \/\/ Questioning Collapse ] - Extraenvironmentalist<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/xenetwork.org\/xe\/episodes\/episode-12-questioning-collapse\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"[ Episode #12 \/\/ Questioning Collapse ] - Extraenvironmentalist\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"As anthropologists, historians and popular writers fit the complex events of the past into stories that relay morals to the modern world, sometimes details can be overlooked to make a point.\u00a0Does a civilization collapse or does it merely transform? 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