{"id":3369,"date":"2013-11-26T18:10:28","date_gmt":"2013-11-26T23:10:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.extraenvironmentalist.com\/?p=3369"},"modified":"2017-05-11T09:10:22","modified_gmt":"2017-05-11T13:10:22","slug":"episode-69-carbon-democracy","status":"publish","type":"xen_episodes","link":"https:\/\/xenetwork.org\/xe\/episodes\/episode-69-carbon-democracy\/","title":{"rendered":"[ Episode #69 \/\/ Carbon Democracy ]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The ideas we have about our government systems have been dramatically shaped by the energy sources that power them. If the physical characteristics of coal and oil have developed the expectations of our 20th century politics, how they also invent 'the economy'? Will it be possible to sabotage a system that has an entirely different energy profile than the one that gave birth to organized labor?<\/p>\n<p>In <strong>Extraenvironmentalist #69 <\/strong>we <strong><\/strong>speak with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.columbia.edu\/~tm2421\/\">Timothy Mitchell <\/a>about our political systems and his book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1781681163\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1781681163&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=theextraenv-20\">Carbon Democracy: Political Power in the Age of Oil<\/a>. We discuss the ways coal and oil have transformed collective labor demands, revolutionized our money systems and contributed to our global conflicts. Then, <a href=\"http:\/\/richardheinberg.com\/\">Richard Heinberg<\/a> updates us on the shale oil bubble and the implications of peak oil as we discuss <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0976751097\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0976751097&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=theextraenv-20\">Snake Oil: How Fracking's False Promise of Plenty Imperils Our Future.<\/a> Richard reflects on the timing of peak oil predictions and what they may indicate for the upcoming decade.<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_7244\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-3369-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/069-carbondemocracy.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/069-carbondemocracy.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/extraenvironmentalist\/xepodcasts.com\/assets\/podcasts\/extraenvironmentalist\/069-carbondemocracy.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div>\n\n<p><strong>\/\/ Books<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1781681163\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1781681163&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=theextraenv-20\">Carbon Democracy by Timothy Mitchell<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0976751097\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0976751097&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=theextraenv-20\">Snake Oil by Richard Heinberg<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ News and Other Items Discussed<\/strong><br \/>\n<em><\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.resilience.org\/stories\/2013-11-20\/krugman-goes-splat\">Krugman Goes Splat <\/a>sent in by Josh<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/america.aljazeera.com\/articles\/2013\/11\/4\/median-wage-stagnationincomeinequality.html\">US Median Wage Stagnation<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/tech.fortune.cnn.com\/2013\/11\/11\/life-changes-be-ready\/?section=money_topstories\">CNN Money: What I Saw at the Doomsday Prepper Convention<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/news\/nation\/2013\/11\/03\/fracking-boom-bust-us-energy-independence\/3328561\/\">USA Today: Could the Fracking Boom Peter Out Sooner than the DOE Expects?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Extended Clips (in order of appearance)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[Break] - 29m<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2DCwafIntj0\">Robert Newman - A Short History of Oil<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wFhsrbtQObI\">Who Killed the Electric Streetcar<\/a><\/p>\n<p>[End]<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.democracynow.org\/2013\/11\/21\/we_have_to_consume_less_scientists\">Democracy Now - Scientists: We Have to Consume Less<\/a> sent in by James<\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Music (in Order of Appearance)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Hobo Jack Adkins - Thirty Inch Coal<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.earmilk.com\/2013\/11\/18\/michael-jackson-wanna-be-startin-somethin-louis-la-roche-remix\/\">Michael Jackson - Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Louis La Roche Remix)<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.earmilk.com\/\">Earmilk<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.themusicninja.com\/new-phantogram-celebrating-nothing\/\">Phantogram - Celebrating Nothing<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.themusicninja.com\/\">The Music Ninja<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/speakeasyelectroswing.bandcamp.com\/track\/smokey-joe-the-kid-put-the-blame-on-pete\">Smokey Joe &amp; The Kid - Put the Blame on Pete<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/speakeasyelectroswing.bandcamp.com\/\">Speakeasy Electroswing<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.the9513.com\/friday-five-roughnecks\/\">Will Lamb - This Old Rig<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dancingastronaut.com\/2013\/11\/smallpools-mason-jar-monsieur-adi-remix\/\">Smallpools - Mason Jar (Monsieur Adi Remix)<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dancingastronaut.com\/\">Dancing Astronaut<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gorillavsbear.net\/2013\/07\/15\/video-classixx-all-youre-waiting-for\/\">Classix - All You're Waiting For<\/a> <em>via<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gorillavsbear.net\/\">Gorilla vs Bear<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Production Credits<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Our correspondent and editor Kevin <em>via<\/em> <a href=\" http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/SustainableGuidance?feature=watch\">Sustainable Guidance Youtube Channel<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>This show was supported by donations from our <em>generous<\/em> listeners:<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Aaron in Queensland<br \/>\nMartine in Maryland<br \/>\nKevin in California<br \/>\nZach in Illinois<br \/>\nNancy in Colorado<\/p>\n<p><strong>\/\/ Send us a BTC tip for #69 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Even .0001 BTC goes a long way! 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If the physical characteristics of coal and oil have developed the expectations of our 20th century politics, how they also invent &#8216;the economy&#8217;? Will it be possible to sabotage a system that has an entirely different [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13058,"featured_media":3370,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[19,551,39,53,54,63,554,553,84,115,121,552,146],"class_list":["post-3369","xen_episodes","type-xen_episodes","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcast","tag-books","tag-coal","tag-culture","tag-economics","tag-economy","tag-energy","tag-expecatations","tag-government","tag-history","tag-oil","tag-peak-oil","tag-shale-oil","tag-society"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v25.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>[ Episode #69 \/\/ Carbon Democracy ] - Extraenvironmentalist<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/xenetwork.org\/xe\/episodes\/episode-69-carbon-democracy\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"[ Episode #69 \/\/ Carbon Democracy ] - Extraenvironmentalist\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The ideas we have about our government systems have been dramatically shaped by the energy sources that power them. 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