{"id":3942,"date":"2023-11-15T09:00:58","date_gmt":"2023-11-15T17:00:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/xenetwork.org\/ets\/?post_type=xen_episodes&#038;p=3942"},"modified":"2023-11-15T09:14:50","modified_gmt":"2023-11-15T17:14:50","slug":"episode-211-doomers-vs-transitionistas","status":"publish","type":"xen_episodes","link":"https:\/\/xenetwork.org\/ets\/episodes\/episode-211-doomers-vs-transitionistas\/","title":{"rendered":"[Episode #211] \u2013 Doomers vs. Transitionistas"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Should our response to global warming focus on technologies that reduce emissions, or on embracing simpler lifestyles? 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